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Midwife, Millie Bonilla, on Empowerment, Self-Care, and Postpartum Support

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On this episode we chat with Millie Bonilla and hear about her transformative journey to becoming a midwife.  She tells us how her own birth experiences lead her to become a doula and from there, go on to invest in herself as a midwife. She opens up about the challenges of providing dedicated care while also maintaining personal well-being, threading in discussions about the importance of self-care practices. If this is a profession you're interested in, have a listen!

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

All right, welcome to the Mint Project podcast. Today we have a very special guest with us, mildred Bonilla, or she likes to go by Millie. We actually met her at Wada Palooza. Her husband was working at an event that we were invited to. We went there and spoke a little bit and then met other wonderful entrepreneurs and then later on we connected with them at our booth at Wada Palooza. So she is a graduate student, midwife, a wife and a mother and we're excited to have you here today. Yes, thank you so much.

Speaker 3:

I'm excited to be here.

Speaker 2:

Awesome. Okay, so we're really excited to just hear everything about how you have decided to get into midwifery, kind of what does it entail to be a midwife and a doula, and your education, how you balance everything work life, mom life, wife life, all those things. But we'd like to really start with your origin story of deciding to become a midwife. From what I read, this is a really beautiful story, so would you mind sharing that with us?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I don't mind at all. So I got pregnant. I was married before and I was a military spouse and we were stationed in Fort Hood when I found out I was pregnant and we had recently gotten there. Now, throughout my pregnancy I had what was called hyperemesis, just just excessive vomiting.

Speaker 1:

I couldn't keep anything down. It was very difficult.

Speaker 3:

It's actually something that happens to, you know, a few women during pregnancy and it's rough.

Speaker 3:

So I wasn't able to really go out, I wasn't making friends, it was very difficult to go anywhere and the marriage itself was not healthy at all. So during my pregnancy I was just very isolated, very alone. I hadn't heard, I didn't know about midwife or doulas I don't know what that was. I was like I don't know, do I need I don't know you, do I? Because my midwife at the hospital did ask me but I just said no because I didn't know what it was and they didn't really go into details about it and, of course, in a clinic and it was just very go, go, go. So you know, it wasn't. Until I was about 32 weeks pregnant or so, I met a mother from a local church that I would go to Because, like I said, my marriage wasn't healthy, so I needed something to keep me, you know, give me some hope, and she was a mama five. She had had her last baby at home and she invited me over and just told me about her birth experience and gave me a video called the business of being born and I watched it and it just shifted my views. I didn't know that there was a such thing as an empowering birth or a birth options. I found out about doulas and my due date was November 10. And around during the summer, we found out that we had to be out of Texas by October. Wow, I was, you know, at 32 weeks pregnant. I was like, okay, you know, let me see what I can do. And I just called around because we were moving here to Miami. I called around and there was a birth center that popped up on Google. I called at nine o'clock at night with the intention to leave a message, but somebody answered Okay, you know, she told me about her birth center and I gave her my insurance information. And you know, when I, she told me, when you get here, just come here, we'll do the payments. And that was that. And she ended up being my doula Awesome.

Speaker 3:

So After I you know we did that I went into labor and it was just really nice to have somebody to call to ask, you know, like, is this normal? This is what's happening. What do I do? You know, sometimes, when you don't at the hospital, I was just expecting to just, you know, show up and say, hey, I'm starting, like you guys do, whatever Get the baby out. Yeah, there was a difference between midwifery care and doula care. They guided me, telling me what was normal. You know that this is okay and it was very supportive. And being in labor as any mother listening would know it's a very vulnerable place to be. You know, especially if you've never experienced it before and If you don't know what's going on, you're going to trust those around you. So it's helpful to have somebody that knows birth, that knows natural, physiological birth, to guide you. You know, in the trenches of the deep place of active labor, yeah, and that's what I had, and when I finally gave birth, I realized I was like man. Every woman deserves to have this.

Speaker 3:

Families deserve to have this, you know to have to support a husband or a partner that doesn't know what's going on, and guiding them like this is how you can support her during labor. Yeah, and that's how, when, up to when my son was a year, I looked for doula certification, you know, and I found one that was affordable. I went through it and I actually started doing my deliveries at the birth center that I delivered. Oh that's really cool. That's awesome, so did you. I'm sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you can keep going I.

Speaker 3:

Was saying, the of the birth center was so new. Nobody had ever delivered there before, so I was a first you're the first.

Speaker 4:

You are brave.

Speaker 2:

That's a brave she answered at 9 pm Cuz she's like I need yeah.

Speaker 3:

And I was like well, you seem nice and it was nice, you know I got the ball rolling yeah yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, it sounds like you found a place that you felt supported, you felt empowered and you felt loved, like when, when you needed all of those things the most, right at the very end of a of your pregnancy, when you know you didn't quite have that in the relationship you were in, and so that they were able to fill a lot of, a lot of voids for you, right.

Speaker 3:

In that. Yeah, it made me realize, you know, with the right support around me, there's a lot that there's a lot that I can do. And I got the strength to, you know, get out of that unhealthy marriage. And as I became a doula, in my three years of getting my certification, I realized I want to do more. I want to be able to educate mothers a little bit more, not just guide them. And then I'm at Whifery school, opened up here in South Miami, and I enrolled cool, and that's what I've been doing this past four years. And and at the end of January I officially graduated Congrats, that's so exciting.

Speaker 2:

Yeah so. I did. How long were you a doula before you? Before you enrolled in the school, in the midwife school, I had been a doula about three years and I was still doing.

Speaker 3:

I still did doula work throughout my midwifery schooling.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, what did the, the men group, midwifery schooling, education look like? Like? What were the qualifications to get in? And Then now are you able to practice in a hospital, in a birth center. What does that look like before and now?

Speaker 3:

so the midwifery school that I went to is, for, you know, is Not for hospital, it's for out of hospital. So I can work at birth centers or have my own home birth practice, and the qualifications they do require you to have a couple of college degrees. One of them for me was medical terminology and there was anatomy and English, although not every school has the same qualifications, because there's plenty of midwifery schools for licensed midwifery or certified professional midwifery. Okay, so you?

Speaker 4:

have to have like pre-wreck, pre-wreck classes. Essentially.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and some of them require you to have a doula certification also. Oh, this one required me.

Speaker 4:

So you said that you now will you be doing offering both doula and midwife, or what's your plan now that you're graduating, or have you even thought that far?

Speaker 3:

So those two roles Take take time and they Require a lot of attention to the mother. So once I start, I'm slowly rolling, you know, rolling into midwifery care only and not as much doula. But doula work is a great foundation towards midwifery care because it helps you have Compassion and see birth from a mother's Instincts and not just, you know, like the whole medical part of it. You learn to really Watch the mother during labor to see what she means, what you can say. I don't know how to explain it, but there's just something that comes out of you where you know what to say to her. There's just that. There's that I exchange.

Speaker 2:

I don't know hormones connection.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's cool. So it's two different things and as a midwife it's hard to have that complete that connection completely. When you're having to, you know, look at other things like the vitals, like it's everything okay right, we keep going, I mean. But you still have to look at the mother, because if the mother's Face says I'm gonna this is hard, but I'm gonna keep going, you know, like you, you're basically hitting a PR. You just have to, you know yeah to that, but I will be doing more midwifery and not as much doula work.

Speaker 4:

Okay. Do you plan on going to a birth center or doing home stuff?

Speaker 3:

for now I plan on doing birth center, just because I Want to be able to have you know, a team and and support before I go off on my own To and also build relationships within the community. You know for the people to also get to know me and build that reputation of who I am and how I work.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's great. So how have you balanced this schedule of being a student, being a mom, being wife that's, you know, working out taking care of yourself? How have you found the time to make sure that your needs are met while you're also, you know, working on bettering yourself so that you can help other women?

Speaker 3:

Well, the great part about this field is that you can limit yourself. You know, I think I've been blessed to be married and have a husband that is very supportive, very understanding of my job and is very much a helpmate to me. But I also see that my kids don't need me. They're young, you know. So they're eight and thirteen. They kind of, you know, they still need Mama to clean and cook and I want to do that. I want them to remember me being there.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I limit myself, you know, between the birth centers I offer, you know one week out of the month, or you know a very long weekend out of the month once or twice. And then, as far as taking on my own personal clients, I do one or two a month, okay, because we still have to meet with them prenatally, you know we still have to take time to talk to them and and I also do that because I want to take my time, yeah, with them.

Speaker 3:

I don't want to feel rushed and I don't want them to fall through the cracks of me having all these other clients which is one of the great things about midwifery care is that midwifery care doesn't have as high of volume as a regular clinic, so your appointments with a midwife can be 45 minutes to an hour or sometimes even more, and it helps when you don't understand certain things in the pregnancy and it helps you to be more connected with your provider and the pregnancy overall.

Speaker 3:

You know you can get emotional in the office and have that time to reflect and get good advice or just collect yourself before you get back out there. You know yeah.

Speaker 2:

I've always been very in awe of people who you know OBS or midwives because it's just such an unpredictable schedule. You know, you have your clients have a due date.

Speaker 2:

but it's not like that means that you know, okay, if we say the second of February, then that baby's coming, then you know you kind of have to be available For weeks before and after, and so even with, like you said, you have two clients that are, you know, yours. That that still is a lot of time, a lot of unknowns, but it's good to hear that you've, you decided that you're still, you know, prioritizing your family while also prioritizing your clients and just trying to keep yourself from being too overwhelmed with everything.

Speaker 3:

Right, yeah, I mean, I also look at when their due dates are, so I may not take on somebody that's due on the you know, 25th of March and then somebody else due on the 2nd of April, because those groups are very close. They could go at the same time and I would hate to be at one delivery and not be able to show up to the other, or to finish one delivery and show up exhausted to someone's rush delivery as proper as doulas, midwives, any provider. Really, we are responsible for the attitude that we bring into someone's sacred birth setting and if we're gonna be coming in with.

Speaker 3:

You know exhaustion, like how do you feel when you're tired, hungry. You haven't slept, you know you get kind of cranky and to be able to guide someone in their delivery when the the mother is the one that's feeling all that.

Speaker 3:

we don't need to be bringing that so that I took that to heart, and that's what made me want to Spread myself out a little bit more, not not just for me to recover, but also for my client to have a fresh provider that's there to you know, fully for the yeah so I mean I can imagine being in that role, being in those moments.

Speaker 4:

There's a lot of, like you said, you're bringing the attitude. That's a lot of intense, that's a lot of intense moments and experiences. It can be, I imagine, pretty emotionally and physically taxing. So what do you do from? I know you've talked about from like a physical standpoint. Spacing now has been helpful, even just the emotions of what goes on there, like does it take a little bit of a mindset reset in between or Were like recovering from what happened. Have you had any scary moments that you've had to kind of emotionally recover from?

Speaker 3:

Yes, actually I've had a couple number. The one of the things that really helps me out is going to the gym. I love CrossFit for that. It just challenges me physically and I'm able to just leave it all out, leave it there on the mat, you know, Just push myself and work out and I feel good because I did something for myself. And I do feel like sweating is almost like hormonally releasing some of that stress too. It takes me about two days to recover from a very long birth. You know those that are like 12 or 18 hours long. My record one was 24 hours of actually being there.

Speaker 3:

But it helps to have somebody that you trust, within your field too, to talk about it, cause I can talk to my spouse about it and he will be loving and understanding. But it's nice to talk to a trusted colleague because maybe there are things that we could change or do differently, or just somebody that maybe experienced something and they have wisdom to pass on to. So, and also ways to address the family, because maybe it was something scary like in my eight years of having to do this, I've resuscitated maybe two babies, wow, and I like to. You know we see them postpartum. Our postpartum visits are 24 hours later, yeah, so I like to be able to have. Thankfully, we've built that connection throughout the prenatal visits, that postpartum we can have a conversation like you know, how are you feeling, how can we help you, or you know what can we do. You wanna talk about it, you know, cause they're thankful and you know we did our job, but it's still scary and you wanna process that, yeah, you're still, yeah, that's still traumatic.

Speaker 3:

So you know it takes me to, I rest, I go to the gym and I wanna be able to come back because I'm still serving the mother, the family, postpartum Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

Love that. Yeah, it's so great to hear that you incorporate the gym into your self-care and we would like to know a little bit more about what. Have you seen the parallels between the clients that you work with, the moms that you work with who go to the gym? They exercise? You know, I know, that not all women can do it. Some people are not, some women are not supposed to, but if you can, the women that can have you seen, you know, are their body stronger? Do their births go a little bit smoother? Are they mentally more prepared, kind of what have you seen? What parallels have you seen between that?

Speaker 3:

Mentally more prepared, even if they haven't worked out in a little while or they weren't able to work out in this pregnancy, having a history of doing any type of strength or endurance workout. There's that mentality of I can keep going, like this doesn't feel good, but I know I'm okay, I can keep going. And though there hasn't it's not always a quick labor generally their mindset is ready to endure the marathon of labor and they have more positive outlooks also on pregnancy, because they know that it's work and it was. You know, obviously it's not as hard as a, it's harder than a workout, yeah, but they knew deep down inside that it's like wow, I did it, you know, like this is gonna end.

Speaker 3:

I always compare birth to a marathon and it's mostly the mindset I see Wow that's really cool.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and then what have you seen with the postpartum work? Do you give your clients any specific recommendations as far as this is, you know good things that you can do to recover, these are good programs to follow. Or do you tell them, you know, make sure that you recover for these six weeks and then you can start slowly building exercise back into your routine, kind of what is your advice as far as recovery goes?

Speaker 3:

And again, everyone's so different, but generally so generally, if everything is normal, you know you do wanna give the body six weeks to recover. Some mamas need more, some mamas are already less, but you wanna, you want to scale that going back into physiological work. You don't want to just jump right where you left off or anything like that. So I do recommend starting off with walking. Walking is a good start, you know, it clears your head and you can do it with your baby or you can go by yourself and so walking and then, once they feel comfortable, they can do jogging, running and if their thing is strength training they can do the strength training.

Speaker 3:

But starting light always light before they go up, and depends on where they were. Physically too light for them may not be the same as what light is for another mama, but in general I usually let them also let them know that they need to listen to their body. If your body is telling you like I shouldn't have done that, rest and come back next week or the next day or you know, and try lighter. So how long do?

Speaker 4:

you? Does that like postpartum relationship with a mom, last for you?

Speaker 3:

Well. So I guess medically it would be about six to eight weeks. You know, as a licensed midwife, as a midwife working outside of the hospital system, my postpartum visits can be whatever I want. It can be every week for eight weeks if I want it to or if the mom wants it and needs it. So it's up to six to eight weeks. And then they still have my number. So every now and again, you know, they text me about certain things and we chat, so that relationship doesn't fade. But medically speaking, about six to eight weeks.

Speaker 4:

Okay, yeah, it's nice to have that flexible support, more support, yeah for sure.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, every midwife is different, but generally they do offer more postpartum care.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Well, and it's like you said, it's because it's not just about getting them to the birth and then having the baby and then moving on, You're able to create a relationship during the entire pregnancy period and then they really trust you through the birth and then, because you're you've built that relationship you're probably also very invested in. You want to continue to check in, make sure that they're supported and recovering and healing correctly postpartum instead of just kind of moving on.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, because it doesn't matter if this is their fifth baby or if this is their first. Every birth is very sacred. It's very special to them, you know, and it doesn't matter how many times I've done this. This is their own unique experience and I'm there to guide them, and it's an honor to be there for them in that manner that they've trusted that. We've built that trust and we've built that relationship, and I want to give them the most supported experience that I can so that they can know that they were not alone and that they had good support.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 4:

So I'm sure a lot of moms are listening to this and thinking, oh, maybe I'll consider it. And we, I think I've had a do-lon before and it's always still a confusing not confusing question. But I always like to hear different perspectives on what is your way of explaining the difference between a do-lon and a midwife For moms that are like I don't get it. Which one do I want? Which one do I need?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I get that question all the time too, I'm sure, and I don't, I mean it's normal. I had the same question. I was like what's the difference? Like they're kind of both there. It's a good thing that I find it funny and kind of a good thing that people don't know the difference between a do-lon and a midwife because they feel like somebody that's constantly there. Good, get both.

Speaker 3:

You deserve a birth team that is going to be there the whole time. The do-la is more of a guidance on how to for your body. It's like it's a coach, a birth coach you know, telling you what positions are good, how they can help, and she's usually there. The do-la is usually there before the midwife Because once labor is starting but you're not really ready to deliver, the do-la will be there and help you, maybe get some sleep, maybe advance, help advance your labor and get out there and walk with you, lunge with you, stretch, be on the birth ball, bring comfort to you. The midwife is more of the medical part, so she's the one that's doing your blood pressures, taking your temperature, listening to that baby's heartbeat, checking your pulse, watching certain signs for your body to confirm that everything's going normal or maybe things are not as normal as they were, and maybe we need to change the birth setting into a safer place.

Speaker 3:

So they're the ones more guiding the delivery itself. But midwives again I'm sorry, go ahead. Well, midwives do still have that compassion side. So it's easy to confuse the do-la with the midwife, because midwives don't just, you know, we're not just in checking you and then we leave. You know, we're still watching you emotionally to see how you're doing and also walking with you and lunging with you and walking, you know, just going through this with you.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I like what you said earlier about you know if, if, if the midwife is the connection side right, so if the doulas being super connected, they're not really able to pay attention to the vitals, and vice versa. So I think that was a really good example of how they're different, that your priority as the medical provider is the health and the doulas. Priority is the emotion, the experience, the, the marathon itself. Right.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, because while and the doulas you know, doulas that have a lot of birth experience can also check these signs. So again, the birth team works in harmony for the mother. So if there are some things that the doulas you know, educated on, can maybe point out to the midwife, then you know that's a good thing, because we're working together in the room with you and we're telling you what's going on and why it's happening, and you're trusting us to continue this labor process. Yeah, to change.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the the the path it's on. I do like how you said that it's a team. Like you know, every person has their specific role but then they work so well together. You know they compliment each other and that's really what a good team does. And so I'm sure as a midwife you will find probably doulas that you prefer to work with, that you guys really can connect and work well together. And then maybe if you have a mama come in and say you know, I want to work with you, I would love a doula, I just don't know who. You would have people that you can recommend so that you know and if they connect well to, then that's just a huge bonus for everyone to have that really good working flow as a team Right.

Speaker 3:

And not only that, but as a new, a lot of new moms, or maybe moms with multiples. Sometimes motherhood can get lonely and there are things that you like and you just don't know how to find that right group or you know that community that can help you. So things like the Mint project or how some places have the hot mom walk. You know places where you can go meet other mothers on this journey with you that are also into fitness. You know they have ones for yoga, they have, you know, mamas that like, are more artsy and they want to do painting and sculpting and they get to do it with your kids. Because you know, we may not all have the luxury to just say okay, bye, I'm going to go to the gym and be able to leave your kid with somebody.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah. So midwives also provide community resources for that family, you know, maybe they're looking for a specific type of pediatrician or chiropractor you know, and that's what a community midwife is really great for, as well for resources.

Speaker 4:

Yeah. So I can see thinking after this okay, great, Well, now I want to do, now I want to have a midwife. Where do I start? Let me go to Google. Okay, I'm overwhelmed. What, how would you recommend? A mom even starts to like narrow down what to look for in a midwife.

Speaker 3:

Well, know yourself. You know, know yourself first and what you are looking for and what you want. Like some, some families want somebody that's more direct and that's good for them. Somebody may want a midwife that's a little bit more motherly, more gentle, maybe somebody more seasoned. But the best way to start, even if you're whether you're on your second trimester and you're like, oh my God, I want a midwife now, or if you're not expecting and you're like, well, I want a midwife when I get pregnant interview, you know, call your local midwives, interview them. Google has some you know great places to ask. Like, what do I ask my midwife? You know to kind of start off with that, and I always recommend watch the business of being born. That's one of, it's one of the go to films you know for a lot of for the pregnancy, for pregnancy it's. It has a lot of information to. But interview the doulas and interview your local midwives and see who would be the best for your birth experience. Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 2:

you keep bringing up that video. I 've actually never seen it, but I've heard about it a lot, so maybe I should go watch it. But going along with that, are there any kind of books or other resources that you would along with that video, that you would along with that video that you would recommend to a mama who's wanting to do a midwife unmedicated birth?

Speaker 3:

If you like to read. I like the Hypno-Birding book. I actually have it, but I don't have it on here. But it's a hypnobirding book and it just talks about how, about connecting with your body and your baby and shifting that mindset from oh, birth is painful and scary, to the actual purpose of that pain and labor, and that itself, I think, is one of the books that I mostly recommend for moms that are starting to begin the journey.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so is that the method that you mostly teach and rely on and use as a midwife? And, dula, do you recommend that your clients take more of a hypnobirding approach? Because there's a bunch of different approaches, but that's the one that you recommend the most.

Speaker 3:

And there's different type of hypnobirding instructors too. So again, it's more of like look at their Instagram, look at their website, check out their philosophies, see if it aligns with yours. There's also like Christian hypnobirding, and if not, there's just childbirth education classes, and that in itself can help you understand what's going on with your body and how to mentally prepare for it.

Speaker 2:

That's so great. It sounds like you're just so passionate about what you do and we're really excited for you. So you said you just barely finished up your school in January. Have you taken your final exam?

Speaker 3:

No, I actually got an email from the school two days ago saying that they received my application and they're processing it, and to be on standby for the date.

Speaker 2:

Oh my gosh, that's so exciting. Are you nervous about?

Speaker 3:

it. I am actually yes, I am. I have no idea what to expect, but there's actually for anybody taking the NARM, it's what it's called N-A-R-M. There's actually a Facebook study group and I recently found it, so you know. I've been on there to see what others have to say about the exam, what tools you're using for studying and how to prepare, also their experience with it, and it's helpful.

Speaker 2:

So far, good, yeah Is it written, or is there like a practical part of it too?

Speaker 3:

From what I understood, there's two options. You can take an in-person proctor or an online, but I was told not to do the online. I was told it's better to go in person.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's really exciting. Well, good luck. We're excited for you. You'll have to keep us posted on how everything goes. Thank you, I will.

Speaker 3:

But this was really great and I hope more mamas are looking into midwifery. Another thing I didn't mention is that if you're planning a hospital birth, there are some midwives that will see you prenatally and you can still deliver at the hospital.

Speaker 3:

So you can use midwifery care for your pregnancy and then deliver at the hospital. Most midwives have good relationships with a local OB that supports them and backs them up in case a mama has to transfer. During pregnancy they developed preeclampsia or diabetes or something that would be outside of their scope of care for labor, so the transition can be smoother into the hospital and not as frantic last minute like who do I go to what?

Speaker 4:

do, I do. That's awesome.

Speaker 3:

So that's also good. If maybe the pregnancy itself didn't go as planned and the birth has to change.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it's good to have that backup, for sure.

Speaker 2:

Well, we're really excited that we got to have you on the podcast. We're excited for all the work that you're doing in your area to support women in their pregnancy and birth and postpartum, and we just feel like you know, our missions align so much. It's all about supporting women and being great resources for them. So we will put your Instagram and in our show notes so people can go find you there. And before we sign off, is there anything else that you'd like to leave our listeners with a final piece of advice?

Speaker 3:

Advice is definitely stay active during your pregnancy. I'm very, I got very excited when I saw you guys, because more communities need to have supportive you know fitness programs for expectant mothers or freshly postpartum mothers, because it does make a difference, not just in your body but in your mindset, and it becomes a part of your own self care and mental care too for a lot of people. So if there's a program, I recommend my project.

Speaker 2:

Awesome, thank you.

Speaker 3:

Thank you, Milly.

Speaker 2:

Thank you we have the same advice that we like to get to everyone.

Speaker 3:

We agree, I love your videos, I mean they're just they're very helpful. Thank you, awesome, thank you.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, well, we can't wait to hear how it all goes. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1:

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