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*MINT TRAINER* Michelle de Jong: Paving the Way for Postpartum Fitness

• The MINT Prjct • Season 1 • Episode 27

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Today you get a special look into our MINT Trainer's program! As a trainer, gym owner, and mom, Michelle de Jong shares her  fitness journey that began with her own challenges after pregnancy. Hear how that lead her to become a specialist in pregnancy and postpartum fitness by taking The MINT Prjct Trainers' Course.

Step into Michelle's shoes as she narrates her experience during and after her pregnancy, including her battle with postpartum anxiety and her work with a pelvic floor physiotherapist. Hear about her experience with the MINT Trainers Course and how it propelled her career and widened her network of professionals. Our discussion also uncovers the many benefits of MINT's interactive training program and the phased approach we teach.

As we draw the curtain on our enlightening conversation with Michelle, we delve into a topic that's close to many of our hearts - balancing work and motherhood. She generously shares her strategies for managing time, the support she receives from her family, and a riveting glimpse into her husband's CrossFit Games journey, representing Limitless Performance in the 35-39 group. Lastly, tune in for Michelle's gold-standard advice for pregnant and postpartum women seeking a coach and tips for gyms looking to integrate postpartum fitness into their programs. This episode is a must-listen for anyone who believes that motherhood shouldn't be a roadblock to fitness but a stepping-stone towards it.

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https://lpfit.ca/moms/
@ml_dejong
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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

Welcome to the Mint Project Podcast. Today we are really excited. We have a trainer and gym owner, michelle DeJeong, with us. She, like I said, she's a mom. She's a personal trainer. She owns a gym called Limitless Performance based out of Ontario, canada. She said there are about an hour outside of Toronto. They actually live in the same city where Emma Lawson is from. That's pretty exciting because she just did really great at the CrossFit Games.

Speaker 2:

We met her in Miami in January during a gym shark event at Wadapalooza. She came up to our booth and was just asking us questions about what we do. She ended up purchasing our trainer's course in March I think it was March. She recently completed it and she's currently working as a pregnancy and postpartum fitness expert. She just got her website all up. It looks really good. I was looking into it yesterday. She's brought a few clients through the whole journey of postpartum and just to get her feet under her and feel really confident. She's just about to launch big and go out on the training of pregnant postpartum women. We're really excited to have her on. Welcome, michelle.

Speaker 3:

Wow, thank you. That was a great introduction. Thank you so much. I'm happy to be here. Yeah, we're so excited to have you on, so, yeah, let's go ahead and get started.

Speaker 2:

We want to know a little bit about you really quick. So go ahead and just give us a quick background, just where you're at, what you're doing, and then we want to hear something special about what you just did with your husband at the CrossFit Games. We'll get into that after. So, yeah, let's just quickly talk about your background and how you got into fitness and became a coach.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so my background is a little bit different, I would say, than a typical trainer who gets into it. I actually went to school for psychology and business, so it wasn't really. I think I wanted to be a lawyer at the time and I was doing a lot of training. I played for the varsity hockey team at the University of Waterloo Cool. I was not passionate of mine, but I wasn't necessarily looking at opening a gym, and my husband also was a hockey player and he was actually supposed to be going into construction, architecture, engineering, and one day he basically just said I want to open a gym and the rest is history. No, it wasn't that simple. Yeah, we know that.

Speaker 2:

We were gym owners Betsy and I and Jess is one too, but she's not here today.

Speaker 3:

Four months later, we had a gym outfitted open and some clients in there, and we've been trekking ever since. So September will be our 11th anniversary for Levelless. Performance oh congrats, that's awesome.

Speaker 4:

Thank you, thank you, we're getting up there so cool.

Speaker 3:

So we started with athlete training and some group training and just kind of have evolved over the years with different programming styles and we do some private training as well. So lots of different things and now getting into the postpartum and pregnancy world. That's awesome.

Speaker 4:

You and your husband coach there right.

Speaker 3:

Yes, yes, we coach there, and then we have about six other coaches that help out as well. Wow, that's awesome Big crew. Yeah, we have about eight classes per day and then some of our private clients on top of that.

Speaker 4:

So you were the first one or are the only one I would assume to be in the pregnancy and postpartum specialty there.

Speaker 3:

At my yes, yes, Okay, yes at our gym. We definitely have some people in our area that are in the fitness space as well in the postpartum fitness space but in my gym I guess now I'm the guru.

Speaker 4:

That's great yeah of course you are as a gym owner for you to see that need and just be like, okay, I'm going to feel it Very good.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we actually had. Before I had my daughter, we actually did have a program and then, going through the whole pregnancy and postpartum experience, I sort of had a different outlook on the journey, yeah. So I wanted to bring a little bit of a different perspective and change up the program a little bit, and that's when I found you guys.

Speaker 2:

Awesome, yeah. So we want to know what sparked your interest in pregnancy and postpartum fitness. You said a little bit. You yourself got pregnant. Kind of tell us about your journey and why you feel so passionate now about helping women.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's a great question. I just found even myself in the fitness space, being a trainer for a long time, I still felt overwhelmed. During pregnancy I did have a. We did have a previous history of some fertility issues, so that was a little bit that kind of dampers it a little bit I was scared to do some things.

Speaker 3:

I wasn't 100% sure. There's a lot of so many varying opinions out there so I definitely didn't know. I did my best. I didn't know exactly what to do and I would say I was a little bit. I didn't do as much as maybe I could have during my pregnancy and then postpartum. Basically at my six week mark, I had an appointment with my midwife and even without an internal check, I was you know. Hey, here you go, you're all set.

Speaker 2:

Did you feel like Kay?

Speaker 3:

I'm like, is the baby check, like a check mark in the baby? Because you aren't even checking me, like what.

Speaker 3:

So, luckily, I had an amazing pelvic floor physiotherapist that I worked hand in hand with and she was sort of my rock throughout this whole thing and helped me recover. It definitely took a lot longer than I anticipated, but we got there eventually. But with her help we kind of came up with a good game plan and just knowing that there are so many moms out there that are getting the okay and they're basically getting zero support, we get all of these pregnancy appointments and then postpartum basically you're sent off to the wolves to figure it out, and I definitely know there's a need for and and a want to right now for moms to want to recover, feel good and get their fitness and their strength back, and I'm excited to help new moms have a good experience postpartum.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's. That's so awesome. I think that personal experience really helps to drive that passion and that desire to do that. This might be a little bit personal too, but did you have? You said you were working with the pelvic floor PT? Did you have any symptoms like why did you go and see that person?

Speaker 3:

I actually had started. It's kind of funny, I actually started pelvic floor physio even before I was pregnant. I was just sort of checking off the boxes in terms of my all-around fitness, like you know what, what's the next thing I can help with my performance? And I went and I saw her and she was doing some work on my tightness and everything and it was actually only a few months later that I got pregnant. So maybe you know, maybe that helps could have been something, something going on there. So I worked with her throughout my pregnancy to be prepared and ready as much as I could for my birth experience and I actually ended up having an apesia to me. So all that work we did, you know, loosen some things up down there, you know cut anyways, which was a bit frustrating.

Speaker 2:

But you put in the work. You can't look back.

Speaker 3:

You know you you're like I did everything.

Speaker 2:

I know, yeah, you can't. You did your best, you planned, you prepared and sometimes you know things happen in terms of symptoms, postpartum and why I used pelvic floor.

Speaker 3:

I was definitely in need of some support postpartum with sort of my mindset and my mental state. I had a little bit of postpartum anxiety and she was just kind of there for me and helped guide me kind of through that initial initial period. I definitely had a decent DR, so I was trying to manage that and bring that back together. I'm a 5 3 and I had a big baby, so there was some decent. Separation happened in early so I was trying to bring that back together.

Speaker 2:

I had a lot of heaviness postpartum not so much incontinence but more so heaviness, hips and separation is kind of what I was working on yeah, well, that's really cool that, excuse me that you had that relationship with her before, so that as soon as you, you know you were starting to fill these symptoms, you, you're like, oh, I know who to talk to, I knew what to do, because a lot of women don't know, and then they just think, well, this is just how my body is now, you know this is right, so yeah.

Speaker 2:

So that's really cool that you have that, and now you also have someone that you can refer your clients to exactly.

Speaker 4:

Yes, we are working hand in hand and she's she's my go to, so I bet that was a good part of the course for you when we're where we are, like building your network of professionals. Yes, you already have that homework done.

Speaker 3:

Definitely. There's definitely some other great pelvic floor physios. We're pretty lucky in our area, so she's definitely not the only one and definitely some other areas. So you guys bringing that up, I was thinking about, oh yeah, there's. I can talk, you know, with the midwives and and help with maybe some of the programs that they have and getting word out to to pregnant moms like that, so that they're kind of ready and have some knowledge kind of going into it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 4:

So now that we're kind of talking a little bit more about the MIT trainers course that you did, I'm so excited to hear your feedback on that. Obviously, we've talked to you since then, like senior feedback form, things like that. But how, first off, how did you choose the MIT trainers course? Let's start with that. What brought you to it? How is that where you made your decision to land?

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's a great question. Seeing you guys in person was kind of the first, first way that I guess I got to know about the course, and the three of you just seemed like really cool people and just some of the experiences that you guys were talking about being moms that sort of hit home to me. So there was sort of that to start. And then when I was looking at courses, I just I don't know what it was specifically, but I just liked the setup of the course in terms of for me it was I didn't want to just do an online course that you just you know, do get a mark and you're ready to go. I wanted something where I felt like I was putting in like a lot of work and I had to actually show up. So I felt like your course, I had to actually show up and do some, do some good work to actually sort of pass.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's how we designed it, so I'm glad you love that. Yeah, that was our main thing. We didn't want people to finish and then be like okay, like you know, I just did this, but I have no idea what to start on any practical knowledge. So can you talk a little bit about that side, like putting it to work?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, these ladies are tough, so, which was awesome. So after most of the chapters, we had some homework and I feel like that was truly sort of the best part of the program was you learned about all of the information and then you had to actually practically do something about it. When I had to do the diastasis checks, I actually physically had to get in there, do the work on it, and then it prompts questions. Okay, so I have these questions about how do I do it? Why are we asking or thinking about it in this way? So the homework really truly made me understand it a lot better, instead of just reading it from a textbook or reading it from an online form or something. So I really liked how that was put together and it made me understand and take in the information.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and you did a great job. You sending in your videos and whenever you yeah, whenever you books calls with me. You just had great questions, which was good for me, too, because it prompted me to think and to learn more, and so I think that that was just a really cool just way to learn, because you have access to us throughout the whole course. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

So, kara, you bring that up and that was probably one of the coolest things about the program is that we do have access to you guys. It's not just like, oh, here I'm selling this program and you can do it and you can, you know, get your cert. You are truly invested in the trainer's knowledge and there to help. So that was one of the cool parts about the program is I could book a time slot with one of them and if I had any questions about any of the topics, we could book a call and discuss.

Speaker 4:

Yeah so glad you took good advantage of that and used it and like. Kara said that's exactly how we designed it to be, so utilizing it that way is good. It shows that it paid off right.

Speaker 3:

And if you're a trainer currently in the program, utilize it because it's beneficial.

Speaker 2:

It's super beneficial, yeah, and I even I remember some of the calls that I had with you. You didn't necessarily maybe you thought there were questions, but really you just needed to talk it over with someone. Then you're like, oh okay, yeah. I actually know, I just have to like you know sometimes you need to talk it out.

Speaker 3:

I have to do that all the time.

Speaker 2:

So, yeah, to really you know understand things.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that's a confidence builder too right. So same thing with you going in. I know the first time I took any kind of education and then had to go apply it with a client. It's a scary moment because you want to feel nervous that you don't know what you're talking about. Like you have, it's like a forced confidence, and then you get on the other side of it and you're like wait a second.

Speaker 2:

I didn't know what.

Speaker 4:

I'm talking about. I can't be successful and that just kind of catapulted it forward. So what were some of the portions of the course I know you said overall like the homework and the interaction was not only good for education but maybe a confidence builder there too. What are some of your, or what was the portion of the course that you felt like was the most like light bulb moment or your favorite part of the course specifically?

Speaker 3:

If I can maybe go back in terms of your question about one of the reasons why I took the course and this might be one of my favorite parts as well sort of a combination was the phased approach. So the six phases and it wasn't just like here follow this program, like with one of my clients that I'm working on now. It's nice to just phase through the different stages and not be forced Okay, these are the three work that we have to do and then we're moving on. So it's like, okay, we're working on these phases, but until we show minimum or no symptoms, we're not, we're not moving on.

Speaker 3:

And it's been really neat to see in person, actually with a client, how the improvements and the intensity of the exercises increases as you go, and it's been really cool to see her be ready for it and it's been exciting to see her go from not being or like a four to five minute bike is hard to now doing a conditioning circuit with running on the running on our turf and skipping, and it's been a really cool progression. So I would say the phased approach. It wasn't because I knew most of the exercises, just from being a long time trainer. I wouldn't say I learned the most from that particular section, but I think it was one of the coolest sections because it brought all of the program together and it was a takeaway that you could use on any of your implement, on on your client or any program that you put together.

Speaker 2:

Cool. Good, I'm so glad that you like it.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it sounds like you've been very successful already. And you just? When did you finish the course?

Speaker 3:

Just a few months ago, but I don't have I only have like one client, but yeah, but she's doing amazing. So, yes, we are pretty, pretty excited and happy about it and I also deem success in terms of what I'm learning from like the practical application of working with her as well. So getting some good knowledge and trying to figure out the program and how it all works and seeing it come to life has been neat. Yeah, sorry, there's one more. I loved the anatomy portion of it because I haven't really dived in too much.

Speaker 3:

Even though I had a baby, I didn't know all of the things, so that was really neat to understand. So that was kind of fun.

Speaker 2:

Good yeah. So now you said you have your one client. You've kind of been working with her, getting some hours under your belt, getting some confidence. Now you're going to expand and get more clients. So you're going to start marketing yourself and stuff like that. Did you gain any? As a current gym owner, you know you have experience with marketing. Did you get any good ideas from the marketing section of the course, or do you kind of already know that?

Speaker 3:

A little bit, but I would say what we talked about before in terms of making relationships and reaching out to different people, and not just physios, but gym owners as well, creating courses. Eventually, I'm not there yet in terms of being able to implement that, but those are definitely some great tips in terms of the marketing.

Speaker 2:

Cool. We're really excited to see your expansion and all of the women that you're going to be able to help. We're really excited to follow you on your journey there.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, thank you. I'm excited to get started. So I have a bit of a maybe nerve-wrecking or controversial question here.

Speaker 4:

I'm ready. So investment in your. I probably hyped it up more than you should have done, but I'm like what do you think I'm going to say now?

Speaker 4:

Now, I want to know I got to pick something good. So investing in your education, especially in the coach industry, is like there's a lot of options out there, right, and it's not cheap to invest in your education, but really you're investing in yourself and your business and we can go down that rabbit hole. So for, maybe, a trainer that's looking at doing this but thinking, dang, it's a lot of money because I've been there. Have you made your money back yet, or what is your plan to do so if you haven't?

Speaker 3:

Not yet, but my plan would be to make it back, I guess, in my first two months of coaching, once my program goes live.

Speaker 4:

Okay, so your first client is not counted towards that, or is counted towards that and you're going. You said you just went live with your website today right.

Speaker 3:

Yes, I haven't promoted it yet, but yes, my website is. My website is now official, Awesome.

Speaker 2:

Awesome, congrats yeah.

Speaker 3:

Thank you, oh it looks really good too.

Speaker 2:

I keep saying that so good yeah you've put a lot of work into it.

Speaker 4:

So shifting here a little bit you are. We've talked about, like, your professional life a lot and we know your mom, we know you had a baby, but how are those worlds combining for you? Like, what is it like being a working mom, especially in the mom's space? How do you, you know, how do you balance all that? We always want to ask moms, like, how are you balancing this? Because every little bit of information from every mom we get is helpful, so helpful.

Speaker 3:

And how old is your? How old is your daughter? She's a year and a half. Yeah, would you like to know about? Last night to this morning, or on the average.

Speaker 4:

Absolutely yes, we will start with that and then your overall like when you're not in the moment, zoom back feeling.

Speaker 3:

Last night she was up for an hour and a half and then alarm goes off at four to coach at five this morning. So that's the mom. Yeah, that's the mom life right now. So she goes to daycare a few days a week, two days a week. And then my mom's helps two days a week and then my husband's mom helps for a morning. So we have a lot of help from that perspective.

Speaker 3:

And then I take her one day a week. I don't book anything on those days. Her and I do some something on that day, and then the other days I just try and get in as much, as as much as I can with the coaching and then build my new programs and owning a business and all of that stuff which is manageable. I find like I'm a little bit more. If I have some time, I'm crunching hard to get as much as I can done in a short period of time. You become very efficient, very a little more efficient. Yeah, yeah, my husband and I work like at the gym together and it's like yesterday I had like two hour block and that was, that was it. And it's like sometimes you know he wants to talk and I'm like buddy, I've got two hours here, like shut it, and I'm glad mine's not in, but let's just touch on that.

Speaker 4:

They really like to just talk and the quality time is so important and it's so good, but when you're working from home or working together, we got to focus.

Speaker 3:

We got it. Yeah, exactly, I got two hours here. I got it. I got to get it done Two hours is a long time.

Speaker 3:

So I would say in general it hasn't been too bad managing. But as Kara brought up, we were just doing the whole CrossFit Games thing. My, my husband, was in the Masters 35 to 39 there last week. So let's just say the last two months have been a lot for the mom side of things, our daughter and him training three to four hours a day, so, and then weekends and stuff. So the last few months have been tough.

Speaker 2:

Yeah Well, you were a lot of hats. You were mom, you were a business owner, coach, trainer, you know. You were a student and then you're, you know, in getting your education, and then your wife, and then your supporter, and were you his coach too.

Speaker 3:

I was his coach at the games, so he does have a coach who programs. But I got to go back into the training hall and see all of the athletes and we weren't expecting as much, as it was Like we showed up in the noble experience and they treated All of the masters athletes just as the individual pro athletes. So they came in each person had their own little locker with their name on it. That's so much gear, basically a personal shopper. So it's pretty neat. And Madison, our daughter, was like she thought it was just like the shoe store, so she was just like ripping it around. Oh my god.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's so fun.

Speaker 3:

Madison and Madison. Yeah, there was. There's no relation there. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 4:

It just is cute for the last year that they're that works out yeah.

Speaker 2:

She's like this is town is made for me, so yeah, so okay, tell us about that. How did he do?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, what's his name. We're going to have to all go find him and see the highlight reel or whatnot.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, oh yes, he's been posting a lot on Instagram so you can see a lot. His name is Adam DeJean. He does actually sort of two sports, so he's a triathlete and then also does the CrossFit stuff. So I'm only saying that, not to to not to do this hard, but it's okay.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, we're proud of that.

Speaker 3:

His play thing sort of gets better as he gets through the season. So like the, the open is very crossfitty and then like as you get it's progress. The quarterfinals and then semifinals. It's a lot more like, let's say, all around athletic and then the games as well, yeah. So like the games, for example, had a 5k run.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he's like oh, I got this. Yeah, warm up.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, he came into the games in that in 10th place so he was like basically a final person to make it, and then he ended up coming fifth and only a little bit few points sort of away from a podium spot. So it was a pretty so cool, pretty neat experience.

Speaker 2:

Wow, and that's really awesome.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, to go up against, like some of the best people in the world, like Scott Pancik was in his same dancer was in here.

Speaker 2:

All those people Good for him. Well, congrats to your husband. Yeah, thank you, and you.

Speaker 4:

Thank you for being for surviving, for your survival, yes, yeah.

Speaker 3:

It's been a few months. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so how was it having your daughter at the games with you and like having her watch her dad compete and seeing all of that?

Speaker 3:

It was. It was good. Luckily we had my in-laws were there, so they took her, basically watched her and took her at night just so we could make sure we get a full night sleep. But she, she loved it. She was just ripping it around everywhere and I was joking. But I said I'm so glad this is a CrossFit event because this girl does not like to wear shoes outside. So the whole time she's in the Coliseum no shoes. She's around no shoes and the CrossFit community is a little bit more accepting of, oh, it's great that she's not wearing shoes. You know, it's great for her feet, great for her development.

Speaker 3:

You go anywhere else and they're like oh, who's this mum letting that girl you?

Speaker 1:

know, walk around with no shoes.

Speaker 3:

So she had a blast. She, I mean she was definitely sleep deprived and we're paying for it this week, but she had fun.

Speaker 2:

Fifth place finish yeah that's where they got awesome.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah Just survive again.

Speaker 2:

Yep, well, yeah, well, that's so exciting. Yeah, we're going to have to go. Everyone go look him up and like all of his posts, because that's really cool. Okay, he's the fourth, yeah, okay, so, yeah. So, kind of coming back and kind of wrapping everything up here, because I've loved, you know, hearing your insights and just hearing how you're doing now and all that stuff- and your tips for working as a mom.

Speaker 2:

What would you say to pregnant and postpartum women who are looking for a trainer or coach? Like any specific questions you would have them ask that person or, and why would you suggest that they get a coach during this time?

Speaker 3:

For me, my recommendation would be to get to do two things so one would be even with a fitness coach would be also to have a pelvic floor assessment done as well.

Speaker 3:

Like I said, there's no, not usually, depending on the person an internal exam, and it's always nice just to kind of know what's sort of happening there. Even with no symptoms, I feel like it's always good to get things checked out. So, definitely doing the pelvic floor physio and the fitness coach route and then just basically asking them what their program is about. So if their understanding sort of a phased approach back to fitness and has actually some knowledge I know there's a lot of gyms out there that might not have any knowledge still about the postpartum experience. So make sure you are either yourself getting some knowledge or making sure that there is someone that is guiding you through that postpartum experience. And I would say that it's even though it might seem like a long, a long call, and you just want to get sort of into it and get going right away. There is so much benefit in the process and it's so worth it to take the right steps in order to heal properly so that you can definitely be you know, potentially even stronger postpartum than you were pre-pregnancy.

Speaker 4:

And what would you say to coaches who let's say, coaches who Might be interested or they're just you know, they've been a general fitness coach for 10 years, 11 years? What would you say to them? Or the gym owners who have coaches underneath them?

Speaker 3:

So two things I would say to coaches or gym owners for any gym owner I would say please be very respectful of your postpartum clients. If you can encourage them to see a pelvic floor physio, if you do not have the credentials to coach them in the right manner so that they have a good return to fitness and a safe return to fitness, and then okay. What was the second question?

Speaker 4:

Well, it was kind of a multi-faceted so gym owners and coaches. You know if they're on the, if they're thinking about whether or not to integrate this into their right or if they're not thinking about it, should they be thinking about it.

Speaker 3:

And I would say you should be thinking about it. We have so many moms and so many people that are pregnant that come through our gym. It's so worth it to be able to be that point of contact for someone and give them a good experience not just a good experience for recovery, but also for just enabling them the opportunity to continue their fitness while going through this time period in their life, and you can be that support person and provide them with potentially an hour of their day that could be, you know, the best hour of their day and making huge impact on their mindset and their mental clarity through this motherhood journey Awesome.

Speaker 2:

Awesome. Well, we've learned so much from you. It's been good to kind of hear your perspective on things. Anything else that you want to share, that you want to leave our listeners with the only?

Speaker 3:

other thing maybe that we didn't touch on as part of the course is one of the areas that I found maybe challenging or hard to wrap my head around was how do I take the information that I've learned and create a program or offerings that makes sense for a phased approach or make sense for all of this new knowledge that I have, because I didn't just want to throw people into a group environment again and I wanted to make sense. If I can give advice to anyone is just to sort of take what you learn and really stay true to kind of the values of the program and come up with a game plan that works for what we have learned.

Speaker 2:

That's great, and who you are as a coach.

Speaker 4:

I got some I love that you made it fit into what you already do, but it's still, but it still makes sense. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, which was challenging to wrap my head around, but we got there eventually.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

You're doing it Awesome.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, time to accept it. Cool, all right. Well, thank you so much, michelle, for coming on.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, tell everybody where they can find you.

Speaker 3:

You can find me on Instagram at ml underscore the genre, or you can find our website at wwwlpfitca. Slash moms.

Speaker 2:

Awesome, I love that Cool Mom. Thank you so much for coming on.

Speaker 3:

Thanks, Michelle.

Speaker 1:

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